When congress try to allure minorities, it is not communal..and when BJP tries to fight for the rights for hindus den it is communal…
would like to add some more topics on the anti-hindu stance of congress:
1) in 2006-07 PM Manmohan singh said “Desh ki sampatti par pehla adhikar Muslims ka hai”…
2) haven’t uttered any word or tried to influence muslim orgs when they banned muslims to sing Vande mataram…Really this can happen only in India in which people refuse to sing National Song in so called Secular country and that too for religeous reason.
3) Congress government is trying to start ‘ISLAMIC BANKING’ to allure gulf countries to invest in India…dont know who will be benefited by this initiative…

You were also right in saying media is also hindu..bcoz in the case of Babri, they remember Babri demolition and not the riots after the demolition in which thousands of Hindus were killed across the country…contradictory to this, in godhra case, they remember post godhra riots and forgot the main event which triggered the riots..

RSS is having good philosopy But Is it what Sangh Parivar is doing in practice? Proof of pudding is in eating.. When the definition of Hindutuva dictates that all are culturally hindus, How could RSS tolerate when one of their organisations attack the place of worship of other culturally hindu’s faiths?

If you had read the comments above, you would know that I had seconded the comment on the bifurcation of Hindutva. The Hindutva agenda pursued by Sangh is being synonymously identified with Hindutva philosophy and there in lies the big confusion. So I attempted to clear that up.

In the matters of Musjid, of course, there is strong evidence of temple. I agree.. you want to correct the foolish mistakes or designs of Moghl emperor. I understand, But u think what will be the consequences if everyone started correcting the history. Don’t you think it would be disaterous. We ll be back to stone ages.

The whole point of talking about the Babri episode in this article is to throw light on the ‘communal’ card played by the ‘secular’ parties by raking up this issue over and over and over again.

In the matters of Varun Gandhi, Do you really believe that CD has been doctored. U should have quoted his other lines that all muslims should be sent to pakistan ( acorss the border). Will you accept it when Hindutuva desires Agandabharat?

Once again plz look into the context rather than just the statements. My question was why did the Media did not play the role of prosecutors in the case of D.Srinivas and Imraan Kidwai.

but Godhra case, I am really sorry.. Modi’s action doesn’t merit your argument. I am of the opinion that He could have prevented what happened. but he didn’t do it either by design or by underestimatiing the situation. I don’t want his administration skills overshadow his sins. Both belong to different sets of scales to compare..

Actually I have stated that the efficiency of the police (implying the Govt) can be disputed but once again no one bothers to show the dispute the efficiency of the media during and after the violence.

Finally,my conclusion drawn is that every party plays the communal card,one way or the other.

RSS is having good philosopy But Is it what Sangh Parivar is doing in practice? Proof of pudding is in eating.. When the definition of Hindutuva dictates that all are culturally hindus, How could RSS tolerate when one of their organisations attack the place of worship of other culturally hindu’s faiths?

In the matters of Musjid, of course, there is strong evidence of temple. I agree.. you want to correct the foolish mistakes or designs of Moghl emperor. I understand, But u think what will be the consequences if everyone started correcting the history. Don’t you think it would be disaterous. We ll be back to stone ages.

In the matters of Varun Gandhi, Do you really believe that CD has been doctored. U should have quoted his other lines that all muslims should be sent to pakistan ( acorss the border). Will you accept it when Hindutuva desires Agandabharat?

I agree with you on J&K issue and Banu case.

but Godhra case, I am really sorry.. Modi’s action doesn’t merit your argument. I am of the opinion that He could have prevented what happened. but he didn’t do it either by design or by underestimatiing the situation. I don’t want his administration skills overshadow his sins. Both belong to different sets of scales to compare..

You are entitled to your view.. i am mine.. Thank You.

I came to your blog through Idlyvadai.

Many congratulations for an exemplary article !

Thanks for touching a very bold article and you did it in style too!

And I wouldn’t buy it if you say that the SP, Congress or any other party is behind that tag. It is by BJP’s own devise that it ended up with the non-secular image, and yes, the other parties have made best use of BJP’s misadventures by adding fuel to fire!

You got that right, that’s why I didn’t provide any concrete conclusion. But sometimes it doesn’t make any sense you know,when in spite of adding fuel to the fire (as you put it) and then brag about secularism, sheesh. I’ve had enough,so that’s why I wrote this article . True Secularism in present day Indian politics is nowhere to be found.

They could have just said “Yes, we believe this is the place for a Ram temple, but we as a truly secular party(which actually they were not), are ready to sacrifice our interests so that we don’t hurt your sentiments” That way, BJP would have earned the respect of Muslims, at least to some extent and at the same time, remain pro-Hindu.

Could have earned the respect,but votes???? That’s too difficult a job.

Destruction of temples by anti-Hindu forces will by no means justify the shattering of the Masjid by BJP. When someone tries to uphold destruction of those temples, then that party becomes non-secular too

Actually neither the BJP nor myself are justifying or dismissing the Babri episode as a payback . I just cited that to say, there’s a difference between the way,our country perceives the ‘sentiments’ of the majority and minority . Sadly the communal-secular divide has crept into that too.

I used pseudo-sec, because unlike the BJP, which was openly communal during its early days, the other parties only claimed to be secular

Pseudo-Secular is a word widely used and propagated by the ‘communal BJP’. So the seculars (pseudo seculars) dismiss this name tag as another ‘communal statement’ by the BJP. By calling the other parties as Pseudo secular, you just made a communal statement. Welcome aboard

But I still adhere to my opinion that the BJP very much deserves all the ‘bad-mouthing’, if you want to call that ‘bad-mouthing’, that is!

That ‘Bad mouthing’ at the top is like the instant conclusion to make more attractive headlines .
Who said only the media can do that?

But as always for each their own

Glad to have you here, do keep visiting.

I apologize for that. I agree ‘intolerance’ was a bad word there. I was trying to say, a truly secular party wouldn’t think about destroying a place of worship. I should have used ‘insensitive’ rather- insensitive to the sentiments of Muslims. They could have just said “Yes, we believe this is the place for a Ram temple, but we as a truly secular party(which actually they were not), are ready to sacrifice our interests so that we don’t hurt your sentiments” That way, BJP would have earned the respect of Muslims, at least to some extent and at the same time, remain pro-Hindu. Then they should have educated the masses what they really mean by Hindutva & try to “streamline” Hindu votes (but they actually attached a different meaning to Hindutva then!! which they are trying to correct now)

//But on the other hand, there have been destruction of temples in the Kashmir valley (pre and post babri) of ’secular India’. Not many are aware of it, thanks to the electronic media but Internet to the rescue again.//

Destruction of temples by anti-Hindu forces will by no means justify the shattering of the Masjid by BJP. When someone tries to uphold destruction of those temples, then that party becomes non-secular too! BJP is trying to salvage whatever reputation (of secularism)it is left with by trying to wipe of Hindutva tag, redefining Hindutva etc. That puts it at par with the congress or any other pseudo-secular party. It should be remembered that the BJP had the audacity to justify demolition of the Masjid. That was blatantly non-secular. I would’ve been happy had the BJP stuck to that stand. Instead, it is now trying to be secular, which it is not. This pseudo-secularism is worse than frank communalism.

//Pseudo-secular, I really don’t want to use this because the minute you term others as ‘pseudo secular’, you become communal//

I used pseudo-sec, because unlike the BJP, which was openly communal during its early days, the other parties only claimed to be secular. That makes the former communal & the latter pseudo-sec, though none the better!!

Finally, if you are just trying to say that the congress is as bad, or even worse than BJP, then its a big yes from my side. But I still adhere to my opinion that the BJP very much deserves all the ‘bad-mouthing’, if you want to call that ‘bad-mouthing’, that is!

//its obvious that BJP tries to ’streamline’ Hindu votes,but how to do it? Definitely not by creating the ‘common enemy’ scenario. If it were to create common enemy,then even the ‘well informed’ wouldn’t vote for it//

Yes, that’s already what is happening now. Unluckily for BJP, they realized that fact a bit too late. It already has a non-secular tag attached to it. Which is the very reason why there is a need for an article like what you have written to re-orient people. And I wouldn’t buy it if you say that the SP, Congress or any other party is behind that tag. It is by BJP’s own devise that it ended up with the non-secular image, and yes, the other parties have made best use of BJP’s misadventures by adding fuel to fire!

Politics is a very tricky trade-one mistake & the other parties will gobble you up! That’s the sad fate of BJP today.

//So even if BJP does change its approach, it can expect a ‘non paradoxical’ result…//

Too far-fetched hope! I like to be optimistic too-so my sincere wishes for a grand come back!